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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:45:42 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:13 CDT
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:45:42 -0400 (EDT)
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>From sdf!ekl@letni.LoneStar.org Tue Jul 12 18:27:38 1994
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:13 CDT
From: ekl@sdf.lonestar.org (Evan K. Langlois)
To: uunet!letni!world.std.com!gem-list-approval
Subject: Re: Digest
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> If you have AES 3.4 or greater, you should check and see what features
> are present in the system using appl_getinfo().
Isn't this only in aes >= 4.00? Or is this another bug in the Compendium?
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I think it's in AES 3.4, and TOS 4.0. TOS and AES versions aren't the same.
========================================================================
OK should close the dialogue. To make changes and leave the dialogue open Apply
should be used. To cancel changes and leave the dialogue open, Revert should be
used.
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Agreed
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Thanks for posting this, it was interesting. BTW, you mention three button
mice, I knew GEM supported three (and up to 8 :) button mice but I had never
heard of anyone fitting one. What should a program do with middle button
clicks?
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Uhh .. MiNT will fake pakets for 3 button mice if you wire the third
button to a joystick direction, much like the second button is wired to
the joystick fire button.
Now, what to do with a third click is tough. I suggested (in the post that
you replied to) that programs that use multiple tools allow the user to
assign separate tools to eachmouse button by clicking on them with that
mouse button. So, say you have a drawing program and you click on the
wide brush with the left mouse button and then click on blue, then you
click on the eraser tool with the right button, then you click on the
spray can with the third button, and click on the color red with the
third button.
Now, you can paint in blue, spray in red, and erase without going back to
your toolbar. If you had an 8-button mouse you would hardly ever need the
toolbar again!! If you only had a 2 button mouse then you must return to
the toolbar more often, but the program is not limited.
If the application doesn't use a toolbar like that, then the button should
just pop-up the main application menu.
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> Characters that need more than the shift key have to be excluded or the
> Cntrl-Alt-Shift combination that is needed shouldn't be allowed.
Which characters are they?
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CNTRL-ALT-FKey is for MiNT debugging.
ALT-FKey is for Vconsoles
CNTRL-ALT-\ is for death, although this, and other CNTRL-ALT-letters that
MiNt reserves may or may not affect GEM apps. Personally I think CNTRL-ALT-C
for "please die", CNTRL-ALT-\ for "die now!" is very useful when you see
a program deleting half your hard disk (you did a recursive delete on the
root directory?? DIE!), and CNTRL-ALT-Z is nice for those polling programs
(which means "SLEEP"). These can be turned off and I have no idea if
MultiTOS leaves them on or off. So, MiNT adds quite a bit, but you have to
give up a few keys. I think ALT-TAB (or CNTRL-ALT-TAB??) is for switching
apps, and some other ALT-non-alphanum keys are used by other OSs maybe.
========================================================================
And when they aren't the users fault it can still be an error anyway. `Fatal
disc <small problem absolutely not your fault...>'
========================================================================
What sort of disk error? If you can't find the file, then say that. If
the disk is full, tell the user. Fatal Disk Error doesn't tell me anything.
And of course, you must suggest a course of action. For file not found,
tell the user where to put the file (pun not intended), for disk full, tell
user to delete unneeded files, or archive them to another floppy. GEMDOS
doesn't and ALERT boxes won't help much for a head crash :-)